diff --git a/src/functions.scad b/src/functions.scad
index eb0ff87..075e645 100644
--- a/src/functions.scad
+++ b/src/functions.scad
@@ -28,3 +28,7 @@ function total_key_height(delta = 0) = $bottom_key_height + $unit * ($key_height
 // actual mm key width and height at the top
 function top_total_key_width() = $bottom_key_width + ($unit * ($key_length - 1)) - $width_difference;
 function top_total_key_height() = $bottom_key_height + ($unit * ($key_height - 1)) - $height_difference;
+
+function side_tilt(column) = asin($unit * column / $double_sculpt_radius);
+// tan of 0 is 0, division by 0 is nan, so we have to guard
+function extra_side_tilt_height(column) = side_tilt(column) ? ($double_sculpt_radius - (unit * abs(column)) / tan(abs(side_tilt(column)))) : 0;
diff --git a/src/key.scad b/src/key.scad
index 0e67a0a..ceb753b 100644
--- a/src/key.scad
+++ b/src/key.scad
@@ -9,6 +9,12 @@ include <key_features.scad>
 
 include <libraries/geodesic_sphere.scad>
 
+// for skin hulls
+use <libraries/scad-utils/transformations.scad>
+use <libraries/scad-utils/lists.scad>
+use <libraries/scad-utils/shapes.scad>
+use <libraries/skin.scad>
+
 
 /* [Hidden] */
 SMALLEST_POSSIBLE = 1/128;
@@ -27,8 +33,25 @@ module shape(thickness_difference, depth_difference){
   }
 }
 
-// shape of the key but with soft, rounded edges. much more realistic, MUCH more complex. orders of magnitude more complex
+// shape of the key but with soft, rounded edges. no longer includes dish
+// randomly doesnt work sometimes
+// the dish doesn't _quite_ reach as far as it should
 module rounded_shape() {
+  dished(-$minkowski_radius, $inverted_dish) {
+    color(blue) minkowski(){
+      // half minkowski in the z direction
+      color(blue) shape_hull($minkowski_radius * 2, $minkowski_radius/2, $inverted_dish ? 2 : 0);
+      /* cube($minkowski_radius); */
+      sphere(r=$minkowski_radius, $fn=48);
+    }
+  }
+  /* %envelope(); */
+}
+
+// this function is more correct, but takes _forever_
+// the main difference is minkowski happens after dishing, meaning the dish is
+// also minkowski'd
+/* module rounded_shape() {
   color(blue) minkowski(){
     // half minkowski in the z direction
     shape($minkowski_radius * 2, $minkowski_radius/2);
@@ -39,7 +62,8 @@ module rounded_shape() {
       }
     }
   }
-}
+} */
+
 
 
 // basic key shape, no dish, no inside
@@ -48,7 +72,9 @@ module rounded_shape() {
 // extra_slices is a hack to make inverted dishes still work
 module shape_hull(thickness_difference, depth_difference, extra_slices = 0){
   render() {
-    if ($linear_extrude_shape) {
+    if ($skin_extrude_shape) {
+      skin_extrude_shape_hull(thickness_difference, depth_difference, extra_slices);
+    } else if ($linear_extrude_shape) {
       linear_extrude_shape_hull(thickness_difference, depth_difference, extra_slices);
     } else {
       hull_shape_hull(thickness_difference, depth_difference, extra_slices);
@@ -56,6 +82,40 @@ module shape_hull(thickness_difference, depth_difference, extra_slices = 0){
   }
 }
 
+// use skin() instead of successive hulls. much more correct, and looks faster
+// too, in most cases. successive hull relies on overlapping faces which are
+// not good. But, skin works on vertex sets instead of shapes, which makes it
+// a lot more difficult to use
+module skin_extrude_shape_hull(thickness_difference, depth_difference, extra_slices = 0 ) {
+  skin([
+    for (index = [0:$height_slices + extra_slices])
+      let(
+        progress = (index / $height_slices),
+        skew_this_slice = $top_skew * progress,
+        x_skew_this_slice = $top_skew_x * progress,
+        depth_this_slice = ($total_depth - depth_difference) * progress,
+        tilt_this_slice = -$top_tilt / $key_height * progress,
+        y_tilt_this_slice = $double_sculpted ? (-$top_tilt_y / $key_length * progress) : 0
+      )
+      skin_shape_slice(progress, thickness_difference, skew_this_slice, x_skew_this_slice, depth_this_slice, tilt_this_slice, y_tilt_this_slice)
+  ]);
+}
+
+function skin_shape_slice(progress, thickness_difference, skew_this_slice, x_skew_this_slice, depth_this_slice, tilt_this_slice, y_tilt_this_slice) =
+  transform(
+    translation([x_skew_this_slice,skew_this_slice,depth_this_slice]),
+    transform(
+      rotation([tilt_this_slice,y_tilt_this_slice,0]),
+        skin_key_shape([
+          total_key_width(thickness_difference),
+          total_key_height(thickness_difference),
+          ],
+          [$width_difference, $height_difference],
+          progress
+        )
+    )
+  );
+
 // corollary is hull_shape_hull
 // extra_slices unused, only to match argument signatures
 module linear_extrude_shape_hull(thickness_difference, depth_difference, extra_slices = 0){
@@ -66,7 +126,10 @@ module linear_extrude_shape_hull(thickness_difference, depth_difference, extra_s
   translate([0,$linear_extrude_height_adjustment,0]){
     linear_extrude(height = height, scale = [width_scale, height_scale]) {
         translate([0,-$linear_extrude_height_adjustment,0]){
-        key_shape(total_key_width(thickness_difference), total_key_height(thickness_difference));
+        key_shape(
+          [total_key_width(thickness_difference), total_key_height(thickness_difference)],
+          [$width_difference, $height_difference]
+        );
       }
     }
   }
@@ -120,7 +183,6 @@ module top_placement(depth_difference) {
   top_tilt_by_height = -$top_tilt / $key_height;
   top_tilt_y_by_length = $double_sculpted ? (-$top_tilt_y / $key_length) : 0;
 
-
   translate([$top_skew_x + $dish_skew_x, $top_skew + $dish_skew_y, $total_depth - depth_difference]){
     rotate([top_tilt_by_height, top_tilt_y_by_length,0]){
       children();
@@ -133,7 +195,7 @@ module _dish() {
   dish(top_total_key_width() + $dish_overdraw_width, top_total_key_height() + $dish_overdraw_height, $dish_depth, $inverted_dish);
 }
 
-module envelope(depth_difference) {
+module envelope(depth_difference=0) {
   s = 1.5;
   hull(){
     cube([total_key_width() * s, total_key_height() * s, 0.01], center = true);
@@ -243,8 +305,7 @@ module clearance_check() {
   }
 }
 
-// legends / artisan support
-module artisan(depth) {
+module legends(depth) {
   top_of_key() {
     // outset legend
     if (len($legends) > 0) {
@@ -252,6 +313,12 @@ module artisan(depth) {
         keytext($legends[i][0], $legends[i][1], $legends[i][2], depth);
       }
     }
+  }
+}
+
+// legends / artisan support
+module artisan(depth) {
+  top_of_key() {
     // artisan objects / outset shape legends
     children();
   }
@@ -283,12 +350,14 @@ module key(inset = false) {
       if($key_bump) top_of_key() keybump($key_bump_depth, $key_bump_edge);
       // additive objects at the top of the key
       if(!inset) artisan(0) children();
+      if($outset_legends) legends(0);
       // render the clearance check if it's enabled, but don't have it intersect with anything
       if ($clearance_check) %clearance_check();
     }
 
     // subtractive objects at the top of the key
     if (inset) artisan(0.3) children();
+    if(!$outset_legends) legends(0.3);
     // subtract the clearance check if it's enabled, letting the user see the
     // parts of the keycap that will hit the cherry switch
     if ($clearance_check) clearance_check();
diff --git a/src/key_layouts.scad b/src/key_layouts.scad
index 42479b6..28e2194 100644
--- a/src/key_layouts.scad
+++ b/src/key_layouts.scad
@@ -11,3 +11,5 @@ include <layouts/lets_split/default.scad>
 include <layouts/project_zen/default.scad>
 
 include <layouts/60_percent/default.scad>
+include <layouts/gherkin/default.scad>
+include <layouts/gherkin/gherkin_bump.scad>
diff --git a/src/key_profiles.scad b/src/key_profiles.scad
index 08f525c..e6b49b6 100644
--- a/src/key_profiles.scad
+++ b/src/key_profiles.scad
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@ include <key_profiles/dsa.scad>
 include <key_profiles/sa.scad>
 include <key_profiles/g20.scad>
 include <key_profiles/hipro.scad>
+include <key_profiles/grid.scad>
 
 // man, wouldn't it be so cool if functions were first order
 module key_profile(key_profile_type, row, column=0) {
@@ -23,6 +24,8 @@ module key_profile(key_profile_type, row, column=0) {
     g20_row(row, column) children();
   } else if (key_profile_type == "hipro") {
     hipro_row(row, column) children();
+  } else if (key_profile_type == "grid") {
+    grid_row(row, column) children();
   } else if (key_profile_type == "disable") {
     children();
   } else {
diff --git a/src/key_profiles/dcs.scad b/src/key_profiles/dcs.scad
index 8fe76f1..67d3204 100644
--- a/src/key_profiles/dcs.scad
+++ b/src/key_profiles/dcs.scad
@@ -5,32 +5,41 @@ module dcs_row(row=3, column=0) {
   $width_difference = 6;
   $height_difference = 4;
   $dish_type = "cylindrical";
-  $dish_depth = 1;
+  $dish_depth = 0.5;
   $dish_skew_x = 0;
   $dish_skew_y = 0;
   $top_skew = 1.75;
 
-  $top_tilt_y = column * 3.5;
+  $top_tilt_y = side_tilt(column);
+  extra_height = extra_side_tilt_height(column);
 
-  // hack so you can do these in a for loop
+  // this dish depth should match the depth of the uberdishing in fully sculpted mode
+  // but it doesn't, and it's very slight for any reasonable double sculpting
+  /* $dish_depth = $double_sculpt_radius - sin(acos(top_total_key_width()/2 /$double_sculpt_radius)) * $double_sculpt_radius; */
+
+  /* echo("DISH DEPTH", $dish_depth, "column", column); */
+
+  // 5/0 is a hack so you can do these in a for loop
   if (row == 5 || row == 0) {
-    $total_depth = 11.5;
+    $total_depth = 11.5 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = -6;
+
     children();
   } else if (row == 1) {
-    $total_depth = 8.5;
+    $total_depth = 8.5 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = -1;
+
     children();
   } else if (row == 2) {
-    $total_depth = 7.5;
+    $total_depth = 7.5 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = 3;
     children();
   } else if (row == 3) {
-    $total_depth = 6;
+    $total_depth = 6 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = 7;
     children();
   } else if (row == 4) {
-    $total_depth = 6;
+    $total_depth = 6 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = 16;
     children();
   } else {
diff --git a/src/key_profiles/dsa.scad b/src/key_profiles/dsa.scad
index eb450cf..3748914 100644
--- a/src/key_profiles/dsa.scad
+++ b/src/key_profiles/dsa.scad
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ module dsa_row(row=3, column = 0) {
   $enable_side_sculpting = true;
   $corner_radius = 0.25;
 
-  $top_tilt_y = column * 3;
+  $top_tilt_y = column * 3 * $double_sculpt_modifier;
 
   depth_raisers = [0, 3.5, 1, 0, 1, 3];
   if (row == 5) {
diff --git a/src/key_profiles/g20.scad b/src/key_profiles/g20.scad
index 3ff0a25..66c5ed3 100644
--- a/src/key_profiles/g20.scad
+++ b/src/key_profiles/g20.scad
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@ module g20_row(row=3, column = 0) {
   //also,
   $rounded_key = true;
 
-  $top_tilt_y = column * 3;
+  $top_tilt_y = column * 3 * $double_sculpt_modifier;
   $total_depth = 6 + abs((row-3) * 0.5);
 
   if (row == 5 || row == 0) {
diff --git a/src/key_profiles/grid.scad b/src/key_profiles/grid.scad
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..e06c3e8
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/key_profiles/grid.scad
@@ -0,0 +1,45 @@
+module grid_row(row=3, column = 0) {
+  $bottom_key_width = 18.16;
+  $bottom_key_height = 18.16;
+  $width_difference = 0.2;
+  $height_difference = 0.2;
+  $top_tilt = 0;
+  $top_skew = 0;
+  $dish_type = "old spherical";
+  // something weird is going on with this and legends - can't put it below 1.2 or they won't show
+  $dish_depth = 1;
+  $dish_skew_x = 0;
+  $dish_skew_y = 0;
+
+  $linear_extrude_shape = true;
+
+
+  $dish_overdraw_width = -8;
+  $dish_overdraw_height = -8;
+
+  $minkowski_radius = 0.5;
+  //also,
+  /* $rounded_key = true; */
+
+  $top_tilt_y = column * 3 * $double_sculpt_modifier;
+  $total_depth = 6 + abs((row-3) * 0.5);
+
+  if (row == 5 || row == 0) {
+    /* $top_tilt =  -18.55; */
+    children();
+  } else if (row == 1) {
+    /* $top_tilt = (row-3) * 7 + 2.5; */
+    children();
+  } else if (row == 2) {
+    /* $top_tilt = (row-3) * 7 + 2.5; */
+    children();
+  } else if (row == 3) {
+    /* $top_tilt = (row-3) * 7 + 2.5; */
+    children();
+  } else if (row == 4) {
+    /* $top_tilt = (row-3) * 7 + 2.5; */
+    children();
+  } else {
+    children();
+  }
+}
diff --git a/src/key_profiles/hipro.scad b/src/key_profiles/hipro.scad
index 95342cd..de5d6d9 100644
--- a/src/key_profiles/hipro.scad
+++ b/src/key_profiles/hipro.scad
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ module hipro_row(row=3, column=0) {
   $width_difference = ($bottom_key_width - 12.3);
   $height_difference = ($bottom_key_height - 12.65);
   $dish_type = "spherical";
-  $dish_depth = 0.9;
+  $dish_depth = 0.75;
   $dish_skew_x = 0;
   $dish_skew_y = 0;
   $top_skew = 0;
@@ -17,23 +17,24 @@ module hipro_row(row=3, column=0) {
   // do you even minkowski bro
   $corner_radius = 0.25;
 
-  $top_tilt_y = column * 3;
+  $top_tilt_y = side_tilt(column);
+  extra_height = extra_side_tilt_height(column);
 
-  if (row == 1){
-    $total_depth = 12.7;
+  if (row <= 1){
+    $total_depth = 13.7 + extra_height;
     // TODO I didn't change these yet
     $top_tilt = -13;
     children();
   } else if (row == 2) {
-    $total_depth = 10.1;
+    $total_depth = 11.1 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = -7;
     children();
   } else if (row == 3) {
-    $total_depth = 10.1;
+    $total_depth = 11.1 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = 7;
     children();
   } else if (row == 4 || row == 5){
-    $total_depth = 11.25;
+    $total_depth = 12.25 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = 13;
     children();
   } else {
diff --git a/src/key_profiles/oem.scad b/src/key_profiles/oem.scad
index dac5c74..f961a76 100644
--- a/src/key_profiles/oem.scad
+++ b/src/key_profiles/oem.scad
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ module oem_row(row=3) {
   $top_skew = 1.75;
   $stem_inset = 1.2;
 
-  $top_tilt_y = column * 3;
+  $top_tilt_y = column * 3 * $double_sculpt_modifier;
 
   if (row == 5 || row == 0) {
     $total_depth = 11.2;
diff --git a/src/key_profiles/sa.scad b/src/key_profiles/sa.scad
index 0f0b199..3f51c4b 100644
--- a/src/key_profiles/sa.scad
+++ b/src/key_profiles/sa.scad
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-module sa_row(n=3) {
+module sa_row(n=3, column=0) {
   $key_shape_type = "sculpted_square";
   $bottom_key_width = 18.4;
   $bottom_key_height = 18.4;
@@ -13,27 +13,36 @@ module sa_row(n=3) {
   // might wanna change this if you don't minkowski
   // do you even minkowski bro
   $corner_radius = 0.25;
+
+  // this is _incredibly_ intensive
+  /* $rounded_key = true; */
+
+  $top_tilt_y = side_tilt(column);
+  extra_height = extra_side_tilt_height(column);
+
   // 5th row is usually unsculpted or the same as the row below it
   // making a super-sculpted top row (or bottom row!) would be real easy
   // bottom row would just be 13 tilt and 14.89 total depth
   // top row would be something new entirely - 18 tilt maybe?
-  if (n == 1){
-    $total_depth = 14.89;
+  if (n <= 1){
+    $total_depth = 14.89 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = -13;
     children();
   } else if (n == 2) {
-    $total_depth = 12.925;
+    $total_depth = 12.925 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = -7;
     children();
-  } else if (n == 3 || n == 5) {
-    $total_depth = 12.5;
+  } else if (n == 3) {
+    $total_depth = 12.5 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = 0;
     children();
   } else if (n == 4){
-    $total_depth = 12.925;
+    $total_depth = 12.925 + extra_height;
     $top_tilt = 7;
     children();
   } else {
+    $total_depth = 12.5 + extra_height;
+    $top_tilt = 0;
     children();
   }
 }
diff --git a/src/layouts/gherkin/default.scad b/src/layouts/gherkin/default.scad
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..8821517
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/layouts/gherkin/default.scad
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+include <../layout.scad>
+
+// negative numbers are used for spacing
+gherkin_mapping = [
+  [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1],
+  [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1],
+  [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1],
+];
+
+module gherkin_default(profile) {
+  layout(gherkin_mapping, profile, row_sculpting_offset=1);
+}
diff --git a/src/layouts/gherkin/gherkin_bump.scad b/src/layouts/gherkin/gherkin_bump.scad
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..b82c435
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/layouts/gherkin/gherkin_bump.scad
@@ -0,0 +1,20 @@
+include <../layout.scad>
+
+// negative numbers are used for spacing
+gherkin_bump_mapping = [
+  [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1],
+  [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1],
+  [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1],
+  [-1, -1, -1, -1, 2, -1, -1, -1, -1],
+];
+
+gherkin_bump_legends = [
+  ["q", "w", "e", "r", "t", "", "y", "u", "i", "o", "p"],
+  ["a", "s", "d", "f", "g", "", "h", "j", "k", "l", ";"],
+  ["z", "x", "c", "v", "b", "", "n", "m", ",", ".", "/"],
+  ["", "", "", "", "", "", "", "", ""],
+];
+
+module gherkin_bump_layout(profile, row_sculpting_offset=1, column_override=undef) {
+  layout(gherkin_bump_mapping, profile, legends=gherkin_bump_legends, row_sculpting_offset=row_sculpting_offset, column_override=column_override, column_sculpt_profile="cresting_wave");
+}
diff --git a/src/layouts/layout.scad b/src/layouts/layout.scad
index 7769a09..7c58cd7 100644
--- a/src/layouts/layout.scad
+++ b/src/layouts/layout.scad
@@ -5,34 +5,49 @@ function abs_sum(list, x=0) =
     x + abs(list[0]) :
     abs_sum([for (x = [1: len(list) - 1]) list[x]], x+abs(list[0]));
 
-module layout(list, profile="dcs", row_sculpting_offset=0, row_override=undef) {
+function 2hands(index, total) = ((index+0.5) % (total/2)) - (total/4);
+function cresting_wave(index, total, mod=5) = (index < total/2) ? (((index + 0.5) / total)*mod) : -(mod - ((index + 0.5) / total * mod));
+function 1hand(index, total) = (index % (total)) - (total/2);
+
+
+// chooses between all the sculpting options
+// checks if column is smack in middle of row - if so, no sculpting
+// since we are zero indexed, the 7th row has an index of 6 and is the center of 13. 6*2+1 = 13
+function double_sculpted_column(column, row_length, column_sculpt_profile) =
+  (column*2 + 1 == row_length) ?
+    0 : (column_sculpt_profile == "2hands") ?
+      2hands(column, row_length) : (column_sculpt_profile == "1hand") ?
+        1hand(column, row_length) : (column_sculpt_profile == "cresting_wave") ?
+          cresting_wave(column, row_length) : 0;
+
+module layout(list, profile="dcs", legends=undef, row_sculpting_offset=0, row_override=undef, column_sculpt_profile="2hands", column_override=undef) {
   for (row = [0:len(list)-1]){
     echo("**ROW**:", row);
     row_length = len(list[row]);
-    for(column = [0:len(list[row])-1]) {
+
+    for(column = column_override ? column_override : [0:len(list[row])-1]) {
       row_sculpting = (row_override != undef ? row_override : row) + row_sculpting_offset;
       key_length = list[row][column];
-
-      // check if column is smack in middle of row - if so, no sculpting
-      // otherwise try to make two half-moon shapes, one for each side of the board
-      // since we are zero indexed, the 7th row has an index of 6 and is the center of 13. 6*2+1 = 13
-      double_sculpted_column = (column*2 + 1 == row_length) ? 0 : (column % (row_length/2))  - (row_length/4);
-
-      echo("double_sculpted_column", double_sculpted_column);
+      column_value = double_sculpted_column(column, row_length, column_sculpt_profile);
       column_distance = abs_sum([for (x = [0 : column]) list[row][x]]);
 
+      echo("\t**COLUMN**", "column_value", column_value, "column_distance", column_distance);
+
+      // supports negative values for nonexistent keys
       if (key_length >= 1) {
-        translate_u(column_distance - (key_length/2), -row) key_profile(profile, row_sculpting, double_sculpted_column) u(key_length) cherry() { // (row+4) % 5 + 1
-          if (key_length == 6.25) {
-            spacebar() key();
-          } else if (key_length == 2.25) {
-            lshift() key();
-          } else if (key_length == 2) {
-            backspace() key();
-          } else if (key_length == 2.75) {
-            rshift() key();
-          } else {
-            key();
+        translate_u(column_distance - (key_length/2), -row) {
+          key_profile(profile, row_sculpting, column_value) u(key_length) legend(legends ? legends[row][column] : "") cherry() { // (row+4) % 5 + 1
+            if (key_length == 6.25) {
+              spacebar() key();
+            } else if (key_length == 2.25) {
+              lshift() key();
+            } else if (key_length == 2) {
+              backspace() key();
+            } else if (key_length == 2.75) {
+              rshift() key();
+            } else {
+              key();
+            }
           }
         }
       }
diff --git a/src/layouts/preonic/default.scad b/src/layouts/preonic/default.scad
index 8090b21..15e38b9 100644
--- a/src/layouts/preonic/default.scad
+++ b/src/layouts/preonic/default.scad
@@ -8,6 +8,6 @@ preonic_layout_mapping = [
   [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 2, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1]
 ];
 
-module preonic_default(profile) {
-  layout(preonic_layout_mapping, profile);
+module preonic_default(profile, column_sculpt_profile="2hands") {
+  layout(preonic_layout_mapping, profile, column_sculpt_profile=column_sculpt_profile);
 }
diff --git a/src/libraries/rounded_rectangle_profile.scad b/src/libraries/rounded_rectangle_profile.scad
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..935fcaf
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/libraries/rounded_rectangle_profile.scad
@@ -0,0 +1,17 @@
+function rounded_rectangle_profile(size=[1,1],r=1,fn=32) = [
+	for (index = [0:fn-1])
+		let(a = index/fn*360)
+			r * [cos(a), sin(a)]
+			+ sign_x(index, fn) * [size[0]/2-r,0]
+			+ sign_y(index, fn) * [0,size[1]/2-r]
+];
+
+function sign_x(i,n) =
+	i < n/4 || i > n-n/4  ?  1 :
+	i > n/4 && i < n-n/4  ? -1 :
+	0;
+
+function sign_y(i,n) =
+	i > 0 && i < n/2  ?  1 :
+	i > n/2 ? -1 :
+	0;
diff --git a/src/settings.scad b/src/settings.scad
index 5791c71..72b1ce2 100644
--- a/src/settings.scad
+++ b/src/settings.scad
@@ -17,6 +17,9 @@ $inverted_dish = false;
 
 // set this to true if you are making double sculpted keycaps
 $double_sculpted = false;
+// change aggressiveness of double sculpting
+// this is the radius of the cylinder the keytops are placed on
+$double_sculpt_radius = 200;
 
 
 // Support type. default is "flared" for easy FDM printing; bars are more realistic, and flat could be for artisans
@@ -25,6 +28,10 @@ $support_type = "flared"; // [flared, bars, flat, disable]
 // Supports for the stem, as it often comes off during printing. Reccommended for most machines
 $stem_support_type = "tines"; // [tines, brim, disabled]
 
+// enable to have stem support extend past the keycap bottom, to (hopefully) the next
+// keycap. only works on tines right now
+$extra_long_stem_support = false;
+
 /* [Advanced] */
 
 /* Key */
@@ -110,6 +117,10 @@ $clearance_check = false;
 // Use linear_extrude instead of hull slices to make the shape of the key
 // Should be faster, also required for concave shapes
 $linear_extrude_shape = false;
+
+// brand new, more correct, hopefully faster, lots more work
+// warns in trajectory.scad but it looks benign
+$skin_extrude_shape = false;
 //should the key be rounded? unnecessary for most printers, and very slow
 $rounded_key = false;
 //minkowski radius. radius of sphere used in minkowski sum for minkowski_key function. 1.75 for G20
@@ -132,6 +143,10 @@ $key_bump_edge = 0.4;
 // Currently does not work with thingiverse customizer, and actually breaks it
 $legends = [];
 
+// make legends outset instead of inset.
+// broken off from artisan support since who wants outset legends?
+$outset_legends = false;
+
 // Dimensions of alps stem
 $alps_stem = [4.45, 2.25];
 
diff --git a/src/shapes.scad b/src/shapes.scad
index 109002a..f74ef2d 100644
--- a/src/shapes.scad
+++ b/src/shapes.scad
@@ -7,6 +7,10 @@ include <shapes/rounded_square.scad>
 include <shapes/square.scad>
 include <shapes/oblong.scad>
 
+// size: at progress 0, the shape is supposed to be this size
+// delta: at progress 1, the keycap is supposed to be size - delta
+// progress: how far along the transition you are.
+// it's not always linear - specifically sculpted_square
 module key_shape(size, delta, progress = 0) {
   if ($key_shape_type == "iso_enter") {
     ISO_enter_shape(size, delta, progress);
@@ -22,3 +26,10 @@ module key_shape(size, delta, progress = 0) {
     echo("Warning: unsupported $key_shape_type");
   }
 }
+
+function skin_key_shape(size, delta, progress = 0) =
+  $key_shape_type == "rounded_square" ?
+    skin_rounded_square(size, delta, progress) :
+    $key_shape_type == "sculpted_square" ?
+      skin_sculpted_square_shape(size, delta, progress) :
+      echo("Warning: unsupported $key_shape_type for skin shape. disable skin_extrude_shape or pick a new shape");
diff --git a/src/shapes/rounded_square.scad b/src/shapes/rounded_square.scad
index 4f0b318..ee57911 100644
--- a/src/shapes/rounded_square.scad
+++ b/src/shapes/rounded_square.scad
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+include <../libraries/rounded_rectangle_profile.scad>
+
 module rounded_square_shape(size, delta, progress, center = true) {
     width = size[0];
     height = size[1];
@@ -20,3 +22,8 @@ module rounded_square_shape(size, delta, progress, center = true) {
       );
     }
 }
+
+// for skin
+
+function skin_rounded_square(size, delta, progress) =
+  rounded_rectangle_profile(size - (delta * progress), fn=36, r=$corner_radius);
diff --git a/src/shapes/sculpted_square.scad b/src/shapes/sculpted_square.scad
index 2be11cb..6b82779 100644
--- a/src/shapes/sculpted_square.scad
+++ b/src/shapes/sculpted_square.scad
@@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
+include <../libraries/rounded_rectangle_profile.scad>
+
 // rounded square shape with additional sculpting functions to better approximate
 
 // When sculpting sides, how much in should the tops come
@@ -42,6 +44,38 @@ module sculpted_square_shape(size, delta, progress) {
   }
 }
 
+// fudging the hell out of this, I don't remember what the negative-offset-positive-offset was doing in the module above
+// also no 'bowed' square shape for now
+function skin_sculpted_square_shape(size, delta, progress) =
+  let(
+    width = size[0],
+    height = size[1],
+
+    width_difference = delta[0],
+    height_difference = delta[1],
+    // makes the sides bow
+    extra_side_size =  side_sculpting(progress),
+    // makes the rounded corners of the keycap grow larger as they move upwards
+    extra_corner_size = corner_sculpting(progress),
+
+    // computed values for this slice
+    extra_width_this_slice = (width_difference - extra_side_size) * progress,
+    extra_height_this_slice = (height_difference - extra_side_size) * progress,
+    extra_corner_radius_this_slice = ($corner_radius + extra_corner_size),
+
+    square_size = [
+      width - extra_width_this_slice,
+      height - extra_height_this_slice
+    ]
+  ) rounded_rectangle_profile(square_size - [extra_corner_radius_this_slice, extra_corner_radius_this_slice]/4, fn=36, r=extra_corner_radius_this_slice/1.5 + $more_side_sculpting_factor * progress);
+
+  /* offset(r = extra_corner_radius_this_slice) {
+    offset(r = -extra_corner_radius_this_slice) {
+      side_rounded_square(square_size, r = $more_side_sculpting_factor * progress);
+    }
+  } */
+
+
 module side_rounded_square(size, r) {
     iw = size.x - 2 * r;
     ih = size.y - 2 * r;
diff --git a/src/stem_supports/tines.scad b/src/stem_supports/tines.scad
index 99cb57c..446b54e 100644
--- a/src/stem_supports/tines.scad
+++ b/src/stem_supports/tines.scad
@@ -1,28 +1,64 @@
 include <../functions.scad>
 include <../stems/cherry.scad>
 
-// $wall_thickness/4 to reduce coincident faces
 module centered_tines(stem_support_height) {
-  if ($key_length < 2) translate([0,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) cube([total_key_width($wall_thickness)+$wall_thickness/4, 1, $stem_support_height], center = true);
-  translate([0,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) cube([1, total_key_height($wall_thickness), $stem_support_height], center = true);
+  if ($key_length < 2) {
+    translate([0,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) {
+      cube([total_key_width(), 0.5, $stem_support_height], center = true);
+    }
+  }
+
+  translate([0,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) {
+    cube([
+      1,
+      total_key_height(),
+      $stem_support_height
+    ],
+    center = true);
+  }
 }
 
 module tines_support(stem_type, stem_support_height, slop) {
+  extra_height = $extra_long_stem_support ? ($unit - total_key_height()) + 0.1 : 0; // fudge
+  extra_width = $extra_long_stem_support ? ($unit - total_key_width()) + 0.1 : 0;
+
   if (stem_type == "cherry" || stem_type == "costar_stabilizer") {
     difference () {
       union() {
-        if ($key_length < 2) translate([0,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) cube([total_key_width($wall_thickness)+$wall_thickness/4, 1, $stem_support_height], center = true);
-        translate([1.15,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) cube([.5, total_key_height($wall_thickness), $stem_support_height], center = true);
-        translate([-1.15,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) cube([.5, total_key_height($wall_thickness), $stem_support_height], center = true);
+        if ($key_length < 2) {
+          translate([0,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) {
+            cube([
+              total_key_width() + extra_width*2,
+              0.5,
+              $stem_support_height
+            ], center = true);
+          }
+        }
+
+        // 2 vertical tines holding either side of the cruciform
+        for (x = [1.15, -1.15]) {
+          translate([x,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) {
+            cube([
+              0.5,
+              total_key_height() + extra_height*2, // this is to extend past
+              $stem_support_height
+            ], center = true);
+          }
+        }
       }
 
       inside_cherry_cross(slop);
     }
   } else if (stem_type == "cherry_stabilizer") {
     difference () {
-      union() {
-        translate([1.15,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) cube([1, total_key_height($wall_thickness), $stem_support_height], center = true);
-        translate([-1.15,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) cube([1, total_key_height($wall_thickness), $stem_support_height], center = true);
+      for (x = [1.15, -1.15]) {
+        translate([x,0,$stem_support_height / 2]) {
+          cube([
+            1,
+            total_key_height($wall_thickness),
+            $stem_support_height
+          ], center = true);
+        }
       }
 
       inside_cherry_stabilizer_cross(slop);
diff --git a/src/supports/flared.scad b/src/supports/flared.scad
index 213a701..50dd5c5 100644
--- a/src/supports/flared.scad
+++ b/src/supports/flared.scad
@@ -1,4 +1,7 @@
 include <../functions.scad>
+// TODO this define doesn't do anything besides tell me I used flat() in this file
+// is it better than not having it at all?
+include <./flat.scad>
 
 // figures out the scale factor needed to make a 45 degree wall
 function scale_for_45(height, starting_size) = (height * 2 + starting_size) / starting_size;
@@ -6,6 +9,11 @@ function scale_for_45(height, starting_size) = (height * 2 + starting_size) / st
 // complicated since we want the different stems to work well
 // also kind of messy... oh well
 module flared(stem_type, loft, height) {
+  // flat support. straight flat support has a tendency to shear off; flared support
+  // all the way to the top has a tendency to warp the outside of the keycap.
+  // hopefully the compromise is both
+  flat(stem_type, loft + height/4, height);
+
   translate([0,0,loft]){
     if (stem_type == "rounded_cherry") {
       linear_extrude(height=height, scale = scale_for_45(height, $rounded_cherry_stem_d)){